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How is Helicobacter pylori diagnosed. What are the common symptoms of H. pylori infection. What treatment options are available for H. pylori. How effective are antibiotics in treating H. pylori. Can H. pylori be treated without antibiotics. What are the long-term effects of untreated H. pylori infection.

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Understanding Helicobacter Pylori: Causes and Prevalence

Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) is a common bacterial infection that affects the stomach and small intestine. This spiral-shaped bacterium has adapted to survive in the harsh, acidic environment of the stomach, where it can cause inflammation and lead to various gastrointestinal issues.

The prevalence of H. pylori infection varies worldwide, with higher rates in developing countries. In some regions, over 50% of the population may be infected. However, many people with H. pylori remain asymptomatic, leading to debates about the necessity of treatment in all cases.

How is H. pylori transmitted?

H. pylori is typically transmitted through:

  • Person-to-person contact, especially in close living conditions
  • Contaminated food or water
  • Oral-oral or fecal-oral routes

The infection often occurs in childhood, but symptoms may not develop until later in life. This long-term colonization can lead to chronic gastritis and increase the risk of peptic ulcers and stomach cancer in some individuals.

Recognizing the Symptoms of H. pylori Infection

While many people with H. pylori remain asymptomatic, others may experience a range of digestive symptoms. Recognizing these signs is crucial for early diagnosis and treatment.

Common symptoms of H. pylori infection

Patients with H. pylori may experience:

  • Abdominal pain or discomfort
  • Nausea and vomiting
  • Bloating
  • Loss of appetite
  • Unintentional weight loss
  • Frequent burping
  • Heartburn or acid reflux

It’s important to note that these symptoms can also be indicative of other gastrointestinal conditions. Therefore, proper diagnosis is essential to determine if H. pylori is the underlying cause.

Diagnosing H. pylori: Tests and Procedures

Accurate diagnosis of H. pylori infection is crucial for appropriate treatment. Several testing methods are available, each with its own advantages and limitations.

Common diagnostic tests for H. pylori

Healthcare providers may use one or more of the following tests to diagnose H. pylori:

  1. Urea breath test
  2. Stool antigen test
  3. Blood antibody test
  4. Endoscopy with biopsy
  5. Rapid urease test

The choice of test often depends on factors such as the patient’s age, symptoms, and medical history. For instance, the forum post mentions a patient undergoing endoscopy with a test for H. pylori that came back “sharply positive (three pluses).”

Treatment Options for H. pylori Infection

The treatment of H. pylori typically involves a combination of antibiotics and acid-suppressing medications. This approach, known as eradication therapy, aims to eliminate the bacteria and reduce stomach acid to allow healing of the stomach lining.

Standard eradication therapy

A typical H. pylori treatment regimen includes:

  • Two antibiotics (e.g., amoxicillin, clarithromycin, metronidazole)
  • A proton pump inhibitor (PPI) to reduce stomach acid
  • Sometimes bismuth subsalicylate is added to enhance treatment efficacy

Treatment duration usually lasts 7-14 days, depending on the specific regimen prescribed. It’s crucial for patients to complete the full course of treatment to ensure eradication of the bacteria and prevent antibiotic resistance.

Controversies and Debates Surrounding H. pylori Treatment

While H. pylori eradication therapy is widely accepted, there are ongoing debates about its necessity in all cases and potential drawbacks of antibiotic use.

To treat or not to treat?

Some healthcare professionals argue that not all H. pylori infections require treatment, especially in asymptomatic individuals. This perspective is reflected in a forum comment stating, “Every second suffers from helix. Treatment is not required! More organism suffers from antibiotics!”

However, it’s important to note that untreated H. pylori can lead to serious complications in some individuals, including peptic ulcers and an increased risk of stomach cancer. The decision to treat should be made on a case-by-case basis, considering the patient’s symptoms, risk factors, and overall health.

Alternative and Complementary Approaches to H. pylori Management

While conventional antibiotic therapy remains the gold standard for H. pylori treatment, some patients and practitioners explore alternative or complementary approaches.

Herbal remedies and probiotics

Some natural remedies that have shown potential in managing H. pylori include:

  • Probiotics to support gut health
  • Garlic, which has antimicrobial properties
  • Green tea, rich in polyphenols
  • Honey, particularly Manuka honey
  • Broccoli sprouts, containing sulforaphane

One forum user reported success with herbal treatment, stating, “I managed to cure it in 2 months with the help of herbs.” While these approaches may have some benefits, it’s crucial to consult with a healthcare provider before relying solely on alternative treatments, especially in cases of confirmed H. pylori infection.

Long-term Management and Prevention of H. pylori Reinfection

Successfully treating H. pylori is only part of the battle. Preventing reinfection and managing long-term gastrointestinal health are equally important.

Strategies for preventing H. pylori reinfection

To reduce the risk of reinfection, individuals can:

  • Practice good hygiene, especially handwashing
  • Ensure safe food and water consumption, particularly when traveling
  • Avoid sharing utensils or food with infected individuals
  • Consider regular check-ups if at high risk for reinfection

It’s worth noting that reinfection rates can vary depending on geographical location and living conditions. Some forum users expressed concern about quick reinfection, with one stating, “You stuff yourself with strong antibiotics, and the next day you pick up this bacteria again in a cafe.”

Patient Experiences and Success Stories

Personal accounts of H. pylori treatment can provide valuable insights and hope for those currently dealing with the infection. Many forum users shared their experiences, both positive and negative.

Successful treatment outcomes

Several users reported long-term relief after treatment:

  • “It has been 6 years without recurrence, I am very pleased that I have treated it qualitatively.”
  • “I managed to cure it in 2 months with the help of herbs.”

These success stories highlight the importance of proper diagnosis and treatment adherence. However, it’s crucial to remember that individual experiences may vary, and what works for one person may not be suitable for another.

Challenges and ongoing concerns

Some users expressed ongoing concerns or difficulties:

  • Persistent symptoms despite treatment
  • Worry about antibiotic resistance
  • Fear of reinfection

These concerns underscore the need for continued research into H. pylori management and the importance of personalized treatment approaches.

The Future of H. pylori Research and Treatment

As our understanding of H. pylori continues to evolve, researchers are exploring new avenues for diagnosis, treatment, and prevention.

Emerging areas of H. pylori research

Current and future research directions include:

  • Development of H. pylori vaccines
  • Novel antibiotic combinations to combat resistance
  • Exploration of the gut microbiome’s role in H. pylori infection
  • Personalized treatment approaches based on genetic factors
  • Improved diagnostic tools for rapid and accurate detection

These advancements hold promise for more effective and targeted H. pylori management in the future, potentially reducing the reliance on broad-spectrum antibiotics and improving long-term outcomes for patients.

In conclusion, H. pylori remains a significant global health concern, with ongoing debates about optimal management strategies. While conventional antibiotic therapy is currently the mainstay of treatment, the experiences shared in patient forums highlight the diversity of outcomes and the potential for alternative approaches. As research progresses, we can hope for more refined and personalized treatment options that address the complexities of H. pylori infection and its impact on gastrointestinal health.

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All this nonsense! Every second suffers from helix. Treatment is not required! more organism suffers from antibiotics!

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By the way, even the doctor told me this. You stuff yourself with strong antibiotics, and the next day you pick up this bacteria again in a cafe … With this helik, in general, everything is still not completely clear.

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Today I had an endoscopy, they did a test for Helicobacter pylori and it turned out to be sharply positive (three pluses). After tomorrow I will go to the gastroenterologist with the analysis, probably. prescribe antibiotics. Who faced similar? How was the treatment? What were the symptoms? Did your hair fall out? 9Hello! I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru 9January 11, 2019 Every second suffers from helix. Treatment is not required! more organism suffers from antibiotics!

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hello! I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru

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All this nonsense! Every second suffers from helix. Treatment is not required! more organism suffers from antibiotics!

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Guest

I had. Revealed with a strong exacerbation of gastritis. It is necessary to treat. They prescribed antibiotics and a bunch of other drugs. It has been 6 years without recurrence, I am very pleased that I have treated it qualitatively.

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Y awn

I had. Revealed with a strong exacerbation of gastritis. It is necessary to treat. They prescribed antibiotics and a bunch of other drugs. It has been 6 years without recurrence, I am very pleased that I have treated it qualitatively. 15 August 2022 I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i. e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru 9Hello! I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru 9Hello! I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru

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9Yes A friend was treated with strong antibiotics for a month. It seems to have recovered, as the tests showed. And a month later, a new one. Whether from the husband has caught, whether from the child. I was already crying… fictional stories

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Guest

“My friend was treated with strong antibiotics for a month.”
And that her friend did not have the mind to be treated with propolis tincture? Propolis is much more effective than all antibiotics and without any side effects!
Doctors won’t prescribe you propolis, of course. They stuff you with different things

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Guest

Good afternoon! And how to be treated with propolis tincture? What are the proportions?

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Guest

Yes. A friend was treated with strong antibiotics for a month. It seems to have recovered, as the tests showed. And a month later, a new one. Whether from the husband has caught, whether from the child. I was already bursting into tears….

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A doctor will prescribe everything for you .. There are antibiotics and a bunch of other drugs. Treatment for a month – then repeat. It is necessary to treat the whole family – to be honest, because. eat and drink from the same glasses. Do not treat – the next stage is cancer..

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I was treated with both de-nol and ulcavis, but I did not see any difference in effect.

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20% propolis advised… Tests were in the clinic..positive. Still ginger 2 hours before meals with tea.. Nothing else helps.. It comes back again.

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The same yeats, only in profile, not even import substitution.
The active substance is identical, the difference in the amount is 0.3%.
The problem is rather the presence of resistant strains, and a shorter “therapeutic window” than SOME bismuth-free drugs used in multicomponent regimens or as mono(-antimicrobial-) therapy.
Helik is an opportunistic pathogen, in minimal quantities it is present in 90% of those living near rivers, wetlands.
If there is a lot of it – bismuth preparations and other AMHT have the function of “buying time” (treatment of the main metabolic defect, chronic burn or frostbite of the upper gastrointestinal tract, etc..).
The term “eradication therapy” that has taken root in medicine is somewhat incorrect; eradication is significant in terms of removal from the bloodstream, submucosal layers, cellular spaces in certain microbial associations, and not just from the body (intestinal lumen, mucosal surface).

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20% propolis advised… Tests were in the clinic..positive Also ginger 2 hours before meals with tea.. Nothing else helps. .It comes back again.

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The doctor prescribed de-nol for me, but after completing the course of treatment with this medicine, I didn’t completely get rid of the problems, because as it turned out, helicobacter was only a complex of drugs , including antibiotics can be cured. Already again after a few months, when it became clear that I had not got rid of the problem, I was prescribed De-nol, only in combination with antibiotics and an inhibitor. And in the pharmacy, my favorite pharmacist advised Ulcavis, it is much cheaper.

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Significantly, as much as almost 2 times.

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roksana.visloukhova

Significantly, as much as almost 2 times.

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Is it possible to save on health?

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roksana. visloukhova

Yes, look at the composition: bismuth tripotassium dicitrate 303.03 mg, excipients: corn starch ny – 72.17 mg; povidone K30 – 18 mg; potassium polycrilin – 23.8 mg; macrogol 6000 – 6 mg; magnesium stearate – 2 mg
And for denol: bismuth tripotassium dicitrate 304.6 mg, excipients: corn starch; povidone K30; potassium polyacrylate; macrogol 6000; magnesium stearate

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Lusechka Ionova body substances: corn starch – 72.17 mg; povidone K30 – 18 mg; potassium polycrilin – 23.8 mg; macrogol 6000 – 6 mg; magnesium stearate – 2 mg
And for denol: bismuth tripotassium dicitrate 304.6 mg, excipients: corn starch; povidone K30; potassium polyacrylate; macrogol 6000; magnesium stearate
Really almost identical medicines…. But de-nol has more bismuth!

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The main thing is that it helps!

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As far as I know, you still need to adhere to a strict diet in addition to drugs

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I had some, but not for Helicobacter #30

robicheva

analyzes?

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Lyusechka Ionova

This is good! Only now I doubt that I only need Ulcavis, especially in the analyzes this terrible bacterium! It is necessary to clarify with the doctor again how we will destroy it!

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I don’t know anything about this medicine, I read that this bacterium is usually treated with De-nol. Has anyone been treated with Ulcavis?

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Proton pump inhibitor + metronidazole + antibiotic. Wash all utensils with soap and disinfect daily. I drank a week, or 10 days, I forgot about a ten-year gastritis. I read the treatment regimen on the Internet, since the gastroenterologist, an old aunt, does not read anything except serials, and I have never heard about the treatment of Helicobacter pylori. It was in 2008.

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robicheva

The doctor prescribed de-nol for me, but after completing the course of treatment with this medicine to the end I didn’t get rid of the problems, because as it turned out, Helicobacter pylori can be cured only with a complex of drugs, including antibiotics.