Хеликобактер пилори форум. Helicobacter Pylori Treatment: Experiences, Methods, and Insights
How is Helicobacter pylori diagnosed. What are the main symptoms of H. pylori infection. Which treatment options are most effective for eradicating H. pylori. Can H. pylori be treated without antibiotics. How long does H. pylori treatment typically last. What are the potential side effects of H. pylori treatment. Does H. pylori always require treatment.
Understanding Helicobacter Pylori: Causes, Symptoms, and Diagnosis
Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) is a bacteria that infects the stomach and small intestine. It’s estimated that over 50% of the world’s population carries this bacteria, though many people remain asymptomatic. H. pylori can cause various gastrointestinal issues, including gastritis, peptic ulcers, and in rare cases, stomach cancer.
Common symptoms of H. pylori infection include:
- Abdominal pain
- Nausea
- Bloating
- Frequent burping
- Loss of appetite
- Unexplained weight loss
Diagnosis of H. pylori typically involves one or more of the following tests:
- Blood test: Detects antibodies to H. pylori
- Stool test: Identifies H. pylori antigens in stool samples
- Breath test: Measures carbon dioxide levels after drinking a special solution
- Endoscopy: Allows direct visualization and biopsy of the stomach lining
Is H. pylori always detectable through standard tests? While these tests are generally reliable, false negatives can occur. Some patients may require multiple tests or different testing methods to confirm the presence of H. pylori.
Conventional Treatment Approaches for H. Pylori
The standard treatment for H. pylori typically involves a combination of antibiotics and acid-suppressing medications. This approach, known as triple or quadruple therapy, aims to eradicate the bacteria and reduce stomach acid production to allow healing of the stomach lining.
A typical treatment regimen might include:
- Two antibiotics (e.g., amoxicillin, clarithromycin, metronidazole)
- A proton pump inhibitor (PPI) to reduce stomach acid
- Bismuth subsalicylate (in quadruple therapy)
How long does H. pylori treatment usually last? Most treatment courses run for 7 to 14 days, depending on the specific regimen prescribed by the healthcare provider.
Alternative and Natural Remedies for H. Pylori
While conventional antibiotic therapy remains the gold standard for treating H. pylori, some individuals seek alternative or complementary approaches. These may include:
- Probiotics: To support gut health and potentially enhance antibiotic efficacy
- Herbal remedies: Such as garlic, ginger, and green tea
- Dietary changes: Incorporating anti-inflammatory foods and avoiding irritants
- Mastic gum: A resin from the mastic tree with potential antibacterial properties
Can H. pylori be treated effectively without antibiotics? While some studies suggest certain natural remedies may have anti-H. pylori effects, their efficacy is generally lower than conventional antibiotic therapy. Patients should consult with healthcare providers before pursuing alternative treatments.
Potential Side Effects and Challenges of H. Pylori Treatment
Antibiotic therapy for H. pylori can come with various side effects and challenges:
- Gastrointestinal disturbances (nausea, diarrhea, abdominal pain)
- Altered taste sensation
- Yeast infections
- Antibiotic resistance
- Potential disruption of gut microbiome
Do the benefits of H. pylori treatment outweigh the potential side effects? For most patients with symptomatic H. pylori infection or related complications, the benefits of eradication therapy typically outweigh the temporary discomfort of side effects. However, individual cases may vary, and patients should discuss concerns with their healthcare providers.
Controversies Surrounding H. Pylori Treatment
The approach to H. pylori treatment is not without controversy. Some medical professionals argue that not all H. pylori infections require treatment, especially in asymptomatic individuals. The debate centers around several key points:
- Potential protective effects of H. pylori against certain conditions
- Risk of disrupting the gut microbiome with antibiotic treatment
- Concerns about increasing antibiotic resistance
- Difficulty in completely eradicating H. pylori in some cases
Should all H. pylori infections be treated? Current guidelines generally recommend treatment for symptomatic infections, those associated with ulcers or other complications, and in regions with high gastric cancer risk. However, the decision to treat asymptomatic carriers remains controversial and may depend on individual risk factors.
Living with H. Pylori: Management and Prevention
For individuals living with H. pylori, whether undergoing treatment or not, certain lifestyle modifications can help manage symptoms and promote overall digestive health:
- Eating smaller, more frequent meals
- Avoiding trigger foods (spicy, acidic, or fatty foods)
- Quitting smoking and limiting alcohol consumption
- Managing stress through relaxation techniques
- Maintaining good hygiene practices to prevent transmission
How can one prevent H. pylori infection or reinfection? While it’s not always possible to prevent H. pylori infection, practicing good hygiene, such as washing hands thoroughly and consuming clean food and water, can help reduce the risk of transmission.
Personal Experiences and Treatment Outcomes
Patient experiences with H. pylori treatment can vary widely. Some report quick resolution of symptoms and successful eradication, while others face challenges with side effects or recurring infections. Here are some insights from individuals who have undergone H. pylori treatment:
- Many patients report significant improvement in symptoms after successful treatment
- Some individuals experience temporary worsening of symptoms during antibiotic therapy
- A subset of patients may require multiple rounds of treatment to fully eradicate the bacteria
- Long-term dietary and lifestyle changes are often necessary to maintain digestive health
What factors influence the success of H. pylori treatment? Treatment success can depend on various factors, including the specific strain of H. pylori, antibiotic resistance patterns, patient compliance with medication regimens, and individual immune system responses.
Future Directions in H. Pylori Research and Treatment
As our understanding of H. pylori and its interactions with human health evolves, researchers are exploring new avenues for diagnosis, treatment, and prevention:
- Development of more targeted antibiotic therapies to reduce side effects
- Investigation of probiotic strains that may help combat H. pylori
- Research into potential vaccines against H. pylori
- Exploration of the role of H. pylori in various non-gastric conditions
- Improved diagnostic tools for detecting antibiotic-resistant strains
How might future treatments for H. pylori differ from current approaches? Future therapies may focus on more personalized treatment plans, considering individual patient factors and specific H. pylori strains. Additionally, non-antibiotic approaches, such as bacteriophage therapy or targeted microbiome interventions, may play a larger role in managing H. pylori infections.
In conclusion, Helicobacter pylori remains a significant global health concern, affecting millions of people worldwide. While current treatment strategies can be effective, they come with challenges and potential side effects. Ongoing research and evolving medical perspectives continue to shape our approach to diagnosing, treating, and living with H. pylori. As always, individuals experiencing persistent gastrointestinal symptoms should consult with healthcare professionals for proper evaluation and personalized treatment recommendations.
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All this nonsense! Every second suffers from helix. Treatment is not required! more organism suffers from antibiotics!
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By the way, even the doctor told me this.
You stuff yourself with strong antibiotics, and the next day you pick up this bacteria again in a cafe … With this helik, in general, everything is still not completely clear.
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Today I had an endoscopy, they did a test for Helicobacter pylori and it turned out to be sharply positive (three pluses). After tomorrow I will go to the gastroenterologist with the analysis, probably. prescribe antibiotics. Who faced similar? How was the treatment? What were the symptoms? Did your hair fall out? 9Hello! I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous.
After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru 9January 11, 2019 Every second suffers from helix. Treatment is not required! more organism suffers from antibiotics!
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hello! I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc.
After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru
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All this nonsense! Every second suffers from helix. Treatment is not required! more organism suffers from antibiotics!
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I had.
Revealed with a strong exacerbation of gastritis. It is necessary to treat. They prescribed antibiotics and a bunch of other drugs. It has been 6 years without recurrence, I am very pleased that I have treated it qualitatively.
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I had. Revealed with a strong exacerbation of gastritis. It is necessary to treat. They prescribed antibiotics and a bunch of other drugs. It has been 6 years without recurrence, I am very pleased that I have treated it qualitatively. 15 August 2022 I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.
e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru 9Hello! I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery.
If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru 9Hello! I was diagnosed with gastritis at the age of 10, and no one had heard of Helicobacter at that time. I constantly suffered from the stomach: pain, nausea, heartburn, etc. After giving birth, my stomach condition only worsened ((very severe pain and constantly nauseous. After 2 years, I decided to take Helicobacter pylori (I looked for a lot of information on the Internet and found out that it is necessary to take it for immunoglobulin ji – this is a sluggish form of Helicobacteriosis, i.e. .. you need to take it for “Helicobacter pylori IgG”, I handed it over in the synlab in our Minsk). CARL!!!! , and this is just 2 months of treatment. Thanks to the herbs. I wish you a speedy recovery. If someone wants to ask a question – write, I will be happy to answer: my mail is ocean-super@mail. ru
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… 9Yes A friend was treated with strong antibiotics for a month.
It seems to have recovered, as the tests showed. And a month later, a new one. Whether from the husband has caught, whether from the child. I was already crying… fictional stories
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“My friend was treated with strong antibiotics for a month.”
And that her friend did not have the mind to be treated with propolis tincture? Propolis is much more effective than all antibiotics and without any side effects!
Doctors won’t prescribe you propolis, of course.
They stuff you with different things
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Good afternoon! And how to be treated with propolis tincture? What are the proportions?
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Yes. A friend was treated with strong antibiotics for a month. It seems to have recovered, as the tests showed. And a month later, a new one. Whether from the husband has caught, whether from the child. I was already bursting into tears….
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A doctor will prescribe everything for you .. There are antibiotics and a bunch of other drugs. Treatment for a month – then repeat. It is necessary to treat the whole family – to be honest, because. eat and drink from the same glasses. Do not treat – the next stage is cancer..
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I was treated with both de-nol and ulcavis, but I did not see any difference in effect.
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20% propolis advised… Tests were in the clinic..positive. Still ginger 2 hours before meals with tea.. Nothing else helps.. It comes back again.
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The same yeats, only in profile, not even import substitution.
The active substance is identical, the difference in the amount is 0.3%.
The problem is rather the presence of resistant strains, and a shorter “therapeutic window” than SOME bismuth-free drugs used in multicomponent regimens or as mono(-antimicrobial-) therapy.
Helik is an opportunistic pathogen, in minimal quantities it is present in 90% of those living near rivers, wetlands.
If there is a lot of it – bismuth preparations and other AMHT have the function of “buying time” (treatment of the main metabolic defect, chronic burn or frostbite of the upper gastrointestinal tract, etc..).
The term “eradication therapy” that has taken root in medicine is somewhat incorrect; eradication is significant in terms of removal from the bloodstream, submucosal layers, cellular spaces in certain microbial associations, and not just from the body (intestinal lumen, mucosal surface).
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20% propolis advised… Tests were in the clinic..positive Also ginger 2 hours before meals with tea.. Nothing else helps. .It comes back again.
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The doctor prescribed de-nol for me, but after completing the course of treatment with this medicine, I didn’t completely get rid of the problems, because as it turned out, helicobacter was only a complex of drugs , including antibiotics can be cured.
Already again after a few months, when it became clear that I had not got rid of the problem, I was prescribed De-nol, only in combination with antibiotics and an inhibitor. And in the pharmacy, my favorite pharmacist advised Ulcavis, it is much cheaper.
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Significantly, as much as almost 2 times.
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Significantly, as much as almost 2 times.
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Is it possible to save on health?
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Yes, look at the composition: bismuth tripotassium dicitrate 303.03 mg, excipients: corn starch ny – 72.17 mg; povidone K30 – 18 mg; potassium polycrilin – 23.8 mg; macrogol 6000 – 6 mg; magnesium stearate – 2 mg
And for denol: bismuth tripotassium dicitrate 304.6 mg, excipients: corn starch; povidone K30; potassium polyacrylate; macrogol 6000; magnesium stearate
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Lusechka Ionova body substances: corn starch – 72.17 mg; povidone K30 – 18 mg; potassium polycrilin – 23.8 mg; macrogol 6000 – 6 mg; magnesium stearate – 2 mg
And for denol: bismuth tripotassium dicitrate 304.6 mg, excipients: corn starch; povidone K30; potassium polyacrylate; macrogol 6000; magnesium stearate
Really almost identical medicines…. But de-nol has more bismuth!
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The main thing is that it helps!
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As far as I know, you still need to adhere to a strict diet in addition to medicines
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Has your sister been tested?
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How could they prescribe medicines for her without the necessary tests?
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It’s good! Only now I doubt that I only need Ulcavis, especially in the analyzes this terrible bacterium! It is necessary to clarify with the doctor again how we will destroy it!
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I don’t know anything about this medicine, I read that this bacterium is usually treated with De-nol.
Has anyone been treated with Ulcavis?
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Proton pump inhibitor + metronidazole + antibiotic. Wash all utensils with soap and disinfect daily. I drank a week, or 10 days, I forgot about a ten-year gastritis. I read the treatment regimen on the Internet, since the gastroenterologist, an old aunt, does not read anything except serials, and I have never heard about the treatment of Helicobacter pylori. It was in 2008.
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The doctor prescribed de-nol for me, but after completing the course of treatment with this medicine to the end I didn’t get rid of the problems, because as it turned out, Helicobacter pylori can be cured only with a complex of drugs, including antibiotics.