Sibo symptoms forum. SIBO Symptoms: 5 Key Signs and Comprehensive Treatment Approaches
What are the main symptoms of SIBO. How is small intestinal bacterial overgrowth diagnosed. What dietary changes can help manage SIBO. How effective are antibiotics for treating SIBO. Can probiotics improve SIBO symptoms. What lifestyle factors contribute to SIBO development. How long does it typically take to treat SIBO successfully.
Understanding Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO)
Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) is a condition characterized by an abnormal increase in the bacterial population in the small intestine. While some bacteria are naturally present in this part of the digestive tract, an overgrowth can lead to various health issues. SIBO occurs when bacteria from either the oral cavity and stomach migrate downwards, or when bacteria from the large intestine reflux upwards into the small intestine.
The small intestine plays a crucial role in our digestive system, responsible for absorbing 90% of calories and most nutrients. It also houses the largest concentration of immune cells in the body. When SIBO develops, it can disrupt these vital functions, leading to a range of symptoms and health complications.
The 5 Key Signs of SIBO
Recognizing the symptoms of SIBO is essential for early diagnosis and treatment. Here are the five primary signs to watch out for:
- Bloating and abdominal distension
- Alternating constipation and diarrhea
- Excessive gas and flatulence
- Abdominal pain or discomfort
- Nutrient deficiencies
Is bloating always a sign of SIBO? While bloating is a common symptom, it’s not exclusive to SIBO. However, if you experience persistent bloating along with other digestive issues, it may be worth investigating for SIBO.
The Far-Reaching Impact of SIBO on Overall Health
SIBO’s effects extend beyond the digestive system. Many patients report non-digestive symptoms that can significantly impact their quality of life. These may include:
- Fatigue and low energy levels
- Brain fog and cognitive difficulties
- Mood disturbances, including anxiety and depression
- Skin issues, such as acne or eczema
- Joint pain and inflammation
Can SIBO affect thyroid function? Some research suggests a potential connection between SIBO and thyroid problems. The gut-thyroid axis is complex, and imbalances in gut bacteria may influence thyroid hormone production and metabolism.
Diagnosing SIBO: Tests and Procedures
Accurately diagnosing SIBO is crucial for effective treatment. Healthcare providers typically use a combination of clinical symptoms and diagnostic tests to confirm the presence of bacterial overgrowth. The most common diagnostic methods include:
Breath Tests
Breath tests are non-invasive and widely used to diagnose SIBO. They measure the levels of hydrogen and methane gases produced by bacteria after the patient ingests a sugar solution. Elevated levels of these gases can indicate bacterial overgrowth in the small intestine.
Small Intestine Aspirate and Culture
This more invasive procedure involves collecting a sample of fluid from the small intestine and culturing it to identify bacterial overgrowth. While considered the gold standard, it’s less commonly used due to its invasive nature.
Organic Acid Testing
Organic acid tests analyze urine samples for byproducts of bacterial metabolism. Elevated levels of certain organic acids can suggest the presence of SIBO.
How accurate are SIBO breath tests? Breath tests are generally considered reliable, with sensitivity and specificity ranging from 60% to 90%, depending on the specific test and protocol used.
Comprehensive Treatment Approaches for SIBO
Managing SIBO often requires a multifaceted approach, combining various treatment strategies to address the overgrowth and underlying causes. Here are some key components of SIBO treatment:
Antibiotics
Antibiotic therapy is a common first-line treatment for SIBO. Rifaximin is frequently prescribed due to its targeted action in the gut and low risk of systemic side effects. Other antibiotics may be used based on the specific bacterial strains present.
Dietary Modifications
Dietary changes play a crucial role in managing SIBO symptoms and supporting treatment. Some effective dietary approaches include:
- Low FODMAP diet
- Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD)
- Elemental diet
- Reducing fermentable carbohydrates
How long should a low FODMAP diet be followed for SIBO? A low FODMAP diet is typically recommended for 4-6 weeks, followed by a gradual reintroduction of foods to identify triggers.
Probiotics and Prebiotics
While the use of probiotics in SIBO treatment is somewhat controversial, some studies suggest that certain probiotic strains may help restore balance to the gut microbiome. Prebiotics, which feed beneficial bacteria, should be used cautiously as they may exacerbate symptoms in some individuals.
Herbal Antimicrobials
Natural antimicrobial herbs such as oregano oil, berberine, and allicin (from garlic) have shown promise in treating SIBO. These may be used alone or in combination with conventional antibiotics.
Prokinetics
Prokinetic agents help improve gut motility, reducing the risk of bacterial overgrowth. They are often used after initial treatment to prevent SIBO recurrence.
What is the success rate of SIBO treatment? Treatment success rates vary, but studies show that about 50-80% of patients experience symptom improvement with appropriate treatment. However, recurrence is common, necessitating ongoing management.
Lifestyle Factors and SIBO Prevention
While not all cases of SIBO can be prevented, certain lifestyle modifications may help reduce the risk of developing or recurring bacterial overgrowth:
- Stress management: Chronic stress can affect gut motility and immune function, potentially contributing to SIBO development.
- Regular exercise: Physical activity supports healthy gut motility and overall digestive function.
- Adequate sleep: Poor sleep quality has been linked to alterations in gut bacteria and increased inflammation.
- Limiting alcohol and processed foods: These can disrupt the gut microbiome and promote bacterial overgrowth.
- Proper hydration: Drinking enough water supports digestive health and bowel regularity.
Can intermittent fasting help with SIBO? Some evidence suggests that intermittent fasting may support gut healing and reduce bacterial overgrowth by allowing the digestive system periods of rest. However, more research is needed to confirm its effectiveness for SIBO specifically.
The Role of Gut Motility in SIBO
Impaired gut motility is a significant factor in the development and recurrence of SIBO. The migrating motor complex (MMC), a series of contractions that sweep through the digestive tract between meals, plays a crucial role in preventing bacterial overgrowth. When this mechanism is disrupted, it can create an environment conducive to SIBO.
Several conditions and factors can affect gut motility and increase the risk of SIBO:
- Gastroparesis
- Diabetes
- Hypothyroidism
- Certain medications (e.g., proton pump inhibitors, opioids)
- Neurological disorders
How can gut motility be improved? Prokinetic agents, such as low-dose naltrexone or herbal options like ginger and artichoke leaf extract, can help stimulate the MMC and improve overall gut motility.
SIBO and Its Connection to Other Digestive Disorders
SIBO often coexists with or contributes to other gastrointestinal conditions. Understanding these relationships can help in developing comprehensive treatment strategies. Some conditions frequently associated with SIBO include:
Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)
Studies have shown a significant overlap between SIBO and IBS, with some researchers suggesting that SIBO may be a contributing factor in a subset of IBS cases. Treating underlying SIBO can lead to improvement in IBS symptoms for many patients.
Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD)
Patients with Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis have a higher prevalence of SIBO compared to the general population. The inflammation and structural changes associated with IBD can create conditions favorable for bacterial overgrowth.
Celiac Disease
SIBO is more common in individuals with celiac disease, even those following a strict gluten-free diet. The damage to the small intestine caused by celiac disease may predispose patients to bacterial overgrowth.
Gastroparesis
Delayed gastric emptying associated with gastroparesis can lead to SIBO by creating a favorable environment for bacterial proliferation in the small intestine.
Does treating SIBO improve symptoms of associated conditions? In many cases, addressing SIBO can lead to significant improvements in symptoms of related digestive disorders. However, a comprehensive approach addressing all underlying factors is often necessary for optimal results.
Long-Term Management and Preventing SIBO Recurrence
SIBO has a high recurrence rate, with some studies reporting relapse in up to 44% of patients within one year of successful treatment. Long-term management strategies are crucial for maintaining symptom relief and preventing recurrence. Key components of a long-term SIBO management plan include:
Periodic Retesting
Regular follow-up testing can help detect recurrence early, allowing for prompt intervention. The frequency of retesting may vary based on individual risk factors and symptom recurrence.
Maintenance Diets
After the initial treatment phase, many patients benefit from a less restrictive but still carefully managed diet. This may involve avoiding trigger foods identified during the reintroduction phase of elimination diets.
Cyclical Antimicrobial Therapy
Some practitioners recommend periodic courses of antibiotics or herbal antimicrobials to prevent bacterial overgrowth. This approach should be carefully monitored and individualized.
Ongoing Prokinetic Support
Long-term use of prokinetics may help maintain healthy gut motility and reduce the risk of SIBO recurrence.
Addressing Root Causes
Identifying and treating underlying conditions that predispose to SIBO (e.g., hypothyroidism, autoimmune disorders) is essential for long-term management.
How often should SIBO be retested after treatment? While there’s no one-size-fits-all approach, many practitioners recommend retesting 4-6 weeks after completing treatment, and then periodically based on symptoms and individual risk factors.
Managing SIBO requires a comprehensive, patient-centered approach that addresses both immediate symptoms and long-term prevention. By combining appropriate medical treatments with dietary modifications, lifestyle changes, and ongoing monitoring, many individuals with SIBO can achieve significant symptom relief and improved quality of life. As research in this field continues to evolve, new insights and treatment strategies may further enhance our ability to effectively manage this complex condition.
Do You Have SIBO? 5 Signs to Look Out For
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Dr Ruscio:
SIBO, or small intestinal bacteria overgrowth, can cause digestive symptoms like bloating, constipation, diarrhea, or reflux, but it can also cause non digestive symptoms such as fatigue, brain fog, mood disturbances, and even a connection to thyroid problems. It’s crucial to understand this far reaching impact of the gut because, as I learned myself, problems in the gut very much so, including SIBO, can cause a wide array of symptoms. And this can explain why some people are frustrated and not able to figure out where their symptoms are coming from. This is Dr. Michael Ruscio and let’s detail this very important finding of small intestinal bacterial overgrowth.
Dr Ruscio:
And so what is SIBO, or small intestinal bacterial overgrowth? Well, the name gives you a pretty good indication as to what it is, but it’s an overgrowth of bacteria in the small intestine. Now, there should be some bacteria in the small intestine, however, compared to the large intestine or the colon, there should be relatively few bacteria. When these bacteria overgrow, they can lead to excessive gas because remember, like people, as bacteria eat food they sometimes release gas. And that gas can build up in one’s system, leading you to feel gassy. And this can also explain why distension, bloating, and pressure are some of the other symptoms that are associated with and caused by SIBO. Some evidence has also found that SIBO can lead to damage of the lining of the gut—leaky gut. It’s similar to what’s seen with celiac disease, actually, and can also lead to overactivation of the immune system. And remember, when the immune system reacts, there’s almost always inflammation that’s wrapped into that. So that’s the long/short on SIBO.
Dr Ruscio:
In terms of how it occurs, there are two main theories and they both have some evidence, some plausibility, and it’s probably one or the other or both for some people. Bacteria from the top—meaning the oral cavity and the stomach—make their way down into the small intestine and then overgrow. This can happen when people have lower levels of hydrochloric acid or at least presumably. So this is something that a very elegant study by gastroenterologist Richard McCollum was documented. Now the other hypothesis and way in which SIBO can occur is from the bottom up. Remember we mentioned a moment ago that the large intestine has a relatively dense colonization of bacteria. And in some cases, bacteria from the large intestine can reflux upward and seed and colonize and overgrow in the small intestine. So it can occur in either direction. Not that that’s incredibly relevant for the treatment per se, there’s some relevance, but just to address some of how SIBO occurs.
Dr Ruscio:
And why is SIBO so problematic? Well, as we outlined a moment ago, you can probably infer a number of reasons why. But to tie those to a number of reasons why, specifically, because 90% of your calories are absorbed in the small intestine. Most nutrients are absorbed in the small intestine. And the small intestine—again, where SIBO occurs—is the most immunoactive. In fact, the largest density of immune cells in the entire body resides in the small intestine. And this is where leaky gut and the connection to auto immunity come in. So a lot is happening in the small intestine. And when we have dysfunction like SIBO there, it can cause many problems.
Dr Ruscio:
Now, as a quick aside, one fairly simple way to help quell SIBO and reduce symptoms is an elemental diet reset. And we’ve put together a free guide if you wanted to obtain some advice on how to do this simple, safe therapy at home. And again, that link is in the description. Okay.
Dr Ruscio:
So five of the more prominent symptoms of SIBO would be digestive—including IBS, gas, bloating, constipation, diarrhea, abdominal pain, but not limited to that—fatigue, mood disorders, brain fog, and thyroid function. And let’s detail these a bit more. Now with SIBO it’s very important to understand the connection to IBS, and this will become more relevant in a moment, but let’s start with the connection between SIBO and IBS, because SIBO is a lab finding and we want to make sure to be careful that we tie a lab finding to have meaning. In essence, that this lab finding correlates with you feeling differently. Because there are lab markers that don’t really have any meaning, and one can get very easily swept up into running all these labs, especially in progressive realms of medicine that aren’t validated and really have no meaning.
Dr Ruscio:
And some of these labs, sadly, are even fraudulent and have been shut down by the FBI or the FDA. So, in 2018, a meta-analysis, which is a summary study, examining over 50 studies published in the Journal of Clinical Gastroenterology, found that more than 1/3 of IBS patients—so these patients who have digestive symptoms—tested positive for SIBO. And other data have found an even higher association between SIBO and IBS. So it’s a moderately safe inference that if you have digestive symptoms, you could have SIBO. If you have IBS, you could have SIBO. And I want to make that connection because there’s a lot of research on IBS and we’ll borrow from some of that to draw another inference in terms of what symptoms SIBO may cause because there’s more evidence on IBS. And so again, sometimes we can borrow from this to help you better understand what you can do to improve your health and to get rid of if it be brain fog or fatigue, so that you can feel better.
Dr Ruscio:
Now, one other thing we should tie in here is the connection between SIBO and gluten sensitivity. This is very important to understand that celiac patients—and this is the, of course, most severe intolerance, even auto immunity in reaction to consumption of gluten—celiac patients who were unresponsive to a gluten-free diet had two times the rate of SIBO when compared to healthy controls. And there’s even other evidence that has found that treatment of SIBO will lead to resolution of symptoms in those who are non-responsive to a gluten-free diet. So if you’ve gone gluten free and seen some result, but not complete, it could be that SIBO is present.
Dr Ruscio:
And outside of IBS—like we detailed a moment ago, the gas, the constipation, the bloating, the abdominal pain— other evidence has also tied SIBO to reflux and indigestion. A 2021 study found that 60% of chronic reflux patients had either dysbiosis and imbalance in the ratios or SIBO and overgrowth. And another 2021 study found that 71.4 [percent] of dyspepsia, or indigestion, patients tested positive for SIBO when compared to only 8% positive in healthy controls. So again, SIBO can associate to IBS, to non-responsiveness or partial responsiveness to gluten-free dieting, and also even to reflux and indigestion.
Dr Ruscio:
Now what about non-digestive or extra intestinal manifestations of SIBO? Well, in another meta-analysis it was found that more than 50% of IBS patients had fatigue. And this is not the only finding that has associated IBS to fatigue. Very important to understand that fatigue can come from your gut. And many people who have digestive symptoms, especially in the clinic will comment, “the worse my gut is (digestive symptoms) the worse my fatigue is. The better it is, the better I feel.” And importantly, interventions that help with either SIBO or IBS have been shown to improve fatigue. Namely, a low FODMAP diet has been shown to improve fatigue in IBS patients and in another study, treating leaky gut reduce fatigue in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome.
Dr Ruscio:
Now what about mood? This is something else that you watching this may have experienced—when your gut flares, your mood flares. But keep in mind that you can have silent digestive problems. And seemingly so your mood problems are coming from nowhere. This is what I experienced myself. I had brain fog, fatigue, and depression with no digestive symptoms coming from a problem ultimately in my gut. But just a flag for you here that depression and anxiety are common in IBS and also thankfully gut treatments—namely probiotics and gut friendly diets—have shown the ability in interventional and clinical trials to improve depression and anxiety. Perhaps the most robust and compelling evidence here is a 2021 meta-analysis—remember, this is a summary, in this case of 16 randomized control trials, the pinnacle of scientific evidence—looking at overall 1100 patients and they found that probiotics improve depression and anxiety. The evidence is stronger for depression, but a signal also exists for probiotics being able to improve anxiety.
Dr Ruscio:
Hi, everyone. If you are in need of help, we have a number of resources for you. “Healthy Gut, Healthy You”, my book and your complete self-help guide to healing your gut. If you’re not a do-it-yourselfer there is the clinic—the Ruscio Institute for Functional Medicine—and our growing clinical and supporting research team will be happy to help you. We do offer monthly support calls for our patients where I answer questions and help them along their path, health coaching support calls every other week, and also we offer health coaching independent of the clinic for those perhaps reading the book and/or looking for guidance with diet, supplementation, etc. There’s also the store that has our Elemental Diet line, our probiotics, and other gut health and health-supportive supplements. And for clinicians, there is our FFMR—the Future of Functional Medicine Review—database which contains case studies from our clinic, research reviews, and practice guidelines. Visit DrRuscio.com/resources to learn more.
Dr Ruscio:
And what about brain fog? Well, brain fog is somewhat common in on either SIBO or IBS. And again, more good news, a randomized control trial found that probiotics improve cognitive performance in those with mild cognitive impairment. Rifaximin, an antibiotic that is FDA approved to treat SIBO, has also been demonstrated to improve cognitive function. And there’s an interesting connection here in that this occurs predominantly in what’s known as hepatic encephalopathy. And what this means is that when the liver is burdened and can’t adequately filter the blood, toxins in the blood make their way into the brain, and this causes cognitive impairment. And Rifaximin, which treats SIBO and improves gut health, has been shown to reduce this whole cascade because the gut drains to the liver and if you fix a problem in the gut, you fix a problem in the liver. And in this case, gut affects liver, affects toxins affects brain. And this is how Rifaximin has been shown at least in a handful of trials to improve this hepatic encephalopathy, right? It’s the gut-liver-brain connection.
Dr Ruscio:
And what about hypothyroidism? This is actually a bit of a newer finding over the past maybe three to four years. You’ve been seeing this breadcrumb trail of evidence being published. One of the more compelling studies was in a grouping of over 1800 patients and they found that hypothyroidism was the condition most tightly associated with small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. What was shocking about this finding was the researchers were expecting acid-lowering drug use, intestinal surgery to be the most tightly associated with SIBO. And what they found was being hypothyroid was the most tightly associated. So this was a fairly landmark finding.
Dr Ruscio:
And another seminal paper in this regard found that probiotics may reduce the need for thyroid medication. And to quote this paper, “TSH (or thyroid-stimulating hormone) concentrations, levothyroxin dose, and fatigue severity all decreased after a intervention on probiotics.” So very compelling. And likely what’s happening here is those who are taking thyroid hormone, levothyroxin, have a degree of impaired absorption of that medication and the probiotics, through potentially addressing SIBO and/or at least improving gut health and therefore improving absorption (as a study found) reduced TSH while also needing less of a dose. Meaning you took less medication and the medication worked more effectively at lowering TSH. And also you saw improvements in fatigue. So very, very interesting information here.
Dr Ruscio:
And I also wanted to draw your attention to this one graph. This is a patient’s TSH over time. Now, ideally when on thyroid hormone medication, the TSH should be 2. 5 or below. And what you’re seeing in this graph is I drew in a green line showing you the 2.5 cutoff. And month over month over month over month, this patient (and this is a published case study by the way) was unable to get their TSH into the normative range until they took Rifaximin, which again, treats SIBO. And then they were able to see improvements in their TSH levels. And finally, see the normalized. In fact, just yesterday, we went through the final draft of a six-patient case series that we will be publishing in a peer-reviewed medical journal, if it’s accepted, showing this sort of thing in a number of cases where improving the gut was actually the final missing piece allowing a patient to then respond more fully to their thyroid care.
Dr Ruscio:
Okay. So in close, remember that SIBO can cause digestive symptoms, bloating, constipation, diarrhea, reflux, et cetera, but it can also cause non digestive symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, mood disturbances, and even thyroid problems. And when we understand this, we can hopefully uncover the root cause of our symptoms and then have a path forward to address them. I hope this helps. And I’d also be curious to hear what your experience has been with SIBO, with gut health, and if you have any other questions or are looking for advice on your path forward. Okay, again, this is Dr. Michael Ruscio and I hope this helps.
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Hi all,
Im so fed up! I have been suffering with sibo symptoms for a long time, but they got really bad last year after taking morphine for a couple months for an unrelated painful injury. My gp and I discovered that antibiotics seem to make me feel better. I did the breath test and was SUPER positive (>70 units) for methane sibo. Ive been on rifaximin alone twice, metronidazole alone once, and metronidazole + rifaximin once – all times my symptoms seem to improve, but then are back a week after stopping the antibiotics. Im now on a herbal antimicrobial protocol (including allimax) but my symptoms are just getting worse and worse as the days since I stopped taking the antibiotics go on.
Ive tried everything – extreme low carb dieting (which I continue to do), elemental diet (could not last more than two days – caused vomiting), etc. I have a prescription for a prokinetic but my naturopath says to wait until weve completed a few rounds of antimicrobials to start it.
I also have the STRANGEST cyclical symptoms that come and go extremely regularly. My gp and naturopath dont know what to make of this. My symptoms go as follows:
– all of a sudden (normally in the evening) get really gassy, lose appetite, have extreme fatigue and get dizzy easily
– next day gas continues – it gets worse and is extreme – huge flatulence every few minutes 24/7 with foul odour. Lots of bloating and pain and discomfort along with this. I also have sudden onset of constipation – when I do go it is very greasy and loose
– this continues for about two days. Then gas starts to subside, appetite and energy returns.
– next day bowel movements are normal and I feel much better
– I feel good for 2-3 days then the symptoms return
Its been cycling like this since June. Im going nuts. I feel so gross and horrible. Cant go to school or work reliably because I can never predict how Im going to feel. Has anyone had any luck actually getting rid of their sibo? Will this ever stop? Has anyone had similar symptoms in that they are cyclical like this?
Im honestly finding it hard to continue on like this – if you have any advice I would really appreciate hearing it.
Thanks everyone!
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Hi, I was diagnosed with hydrogen dominant SIBO finally after going to doctors for 8 months with symptoms. I had been a recurrent C Diff sufferer and had a fecal transplant in March 2017. About 8 weeks later I started with symptoms. I had so many tests run on me, and finally I asked for a SIBO test.
Because of my c Diff risk (I will likely always be a carrier) they recommended I see a nutritionist for the herbal protocol instead of taking Rifaximin. What herbal regimen are you doing?
I swear I cant find a thorough competent practitioner to save my life, literally. This nutritionist started me on a protocol, then a week later randomly emails me and says she is altering it to include some other drug… then that made me sick, I had to drop my dosage and start over… she seems like shes just guessing. My GI doc that referred me to her now has left the practice.
This crossover between conventional and naturopathic medicine is scary, because none of them seem really knowledgeable.
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Hi, thanks for your reply! Sorry youre suffering too, its totally debilitating. The protocol my naturopath has me on started with two weeks of rifaximin + flagyl. We then started alimax (2 pills 3x daily with food) and an sibo tincture that includes berberine and some other ingredients (cant remember now – but I can dm you later with the exact details. As well, I take a biofilm disruptor. Im in the middle of this part now, and shes just switched me to a more powerful biofilm disruptor – the idea being that I have had this for so long that the bacteria have really set up shop. After two weeks of this I will switch to a different anyimicrobial protocol for two weeks, then alternate back. The idea is to continue this until my symptoms start to improve (including maybe repeating antibiotics) and then add in the prokinetic (prucalopride).
I gotta day Im a scientist and a lot of this stuff seemed a little far fetched to me (biofilm lol?) but I have done some research and it is all pretty well supported by the limited research and studies that are out there
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I’ve had similar symptoms for over 3 years. . VERY high methane levels as well. Nothing has eliminated it. Tried multiple rounds of antibiotics. Multiple types of diets. The best I experienced was temporary relief from symptoms while on the first course of antibiotics. Subsequent courses weren’t as successful. Only had minor relief.
For the past several months, my gastroenterologist has had me on Trulance which has significantly decreased the constipation and bloating. However, I have diarrhea daily due to it. It’s the lesser of two evils for me.
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Thanks for replying jza. Sorry youve also had a tough time of it. I tried a similar medication called Constella, it did nothing but make me uncomfortable. Constipation is not my main issue – its the gas (incredible horrible amounts of gas! Im a gas producing machine). The constipation is just weird because its part of the cycle – I can tell the night before that Im going to not have my regular bm the next day by the way I start losing my appetite and begin to bloat.
Have you tried a herbal antimicrobial/biofilm disruptor protocol? Has your doctor offered any other treatment options?
Has anyone actually beat SIBO at all? I cant imagine spending the rest of my life like this (Im 25). I cant work, or even be in the same room as someone else half of the time. Terrible.
I am hoping that either the new biofilm disruptors or the next phase in the antimicrobial protocol will improve things. If not Im wondering if I should try a longer term rifaximin/flagyl course. Has anyone done this? Like for a month or more? I do have an appointment with a new gastroenterologist (after months of trying to find someone who would see me – they all thought my gp and I were nuts – long story there) so hopefully he will have some ideas.
Also – does anyone know if you can get oral neomycin in Canada? My gp said it was o key available in topical form.
Thanks all for reading.
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I was going to add here. .. I know in my reading of studies that Rifaximin with Neomycin has a higher success rate. But know nothing about Canada! I know someone who fully recovered from hydrogen SIBo, but not methane. Evidently the approach to methane SIBo has to be different. .. but the friend developed c Diff from the SIBo treatment, and was finally cured by an FMT.
What are the guidelines for FMT in Canada? Here it is still considered experimental, and usually only done for recurrent c Diff. But, there has been speculation it could treat SIBO by creating general balance with the gut microbiome.
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Thanks for your input MKW! Im certainly nervous about C Diff – scary thought. It is rarer to get it from taking rifaximin and neomycin as they are targeted antibiotics, but still possible and I have taken broad spectrum twice in the past few months.
FMT is actually becoming pretty accepted as a treatment here in Canada. My gp has mentioned it and has a patient with bad untreatable ibs who has gone for this treatment. It does require some travel to a University hospital that does research on it – but there are a few universities here that are leaders in the field. It may be an option for me at some point if other treatments fail, as I know they have used it for general ibs and tough sibo
Cases.
It is very discouraging that I have seen so little anecdotal evidence of people being cured from methane sibo. Not only this, but the relapse rates in the scientific literature are very high.
Long story short, but Ive had a year from hell. September before last I got injured – and was in extreme pain until April of last year when I finally had surgery. Then since then, Ive been dealing with this friggen sibo in one form or another. I used to be a personal trainer and grad student – now Im at least able to work out again and work on my studies from home – but this stupid disease is keeping me from starting PhD and returning to my personal training clients. And frankly, makes it tough to just live every day life without being overwhelmed with anxiety and depression.
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I was about the same age as you when I was diagnosed with SIBO-C so I definitely feel your pain. Yes, it is true the recovery rates for methane SIBO are low and the recurrence rates are very high. My gastroenterologist said my methane levels are so high, and I’ve responded so unsuccessfully to past attempts at treatment, that my best option is to use prescription laxatives for relief. She told me there are medications in development that are targeted at eliminating methane SIBO, so I have my fingers crossed that one day there will be a cure.
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Hi, so did your doctor attribute the onset of your SIBO to a particular cause? Are you told you have a motility problem that is the root cause? Was it due to your injury or treatment for your injury?… I developed my SIBO after my FMT for C Diff. So there has yet to be a determination as to the root cause for me. I feel like Im doing treatment but even if its successful that it will just come back unless the core physiological flaw is dealt with, unless it was caused by bacteria going into my small intestine from the stool transplant. Its a possibility but now a common outcome of colonoscopy FMT, so I may have another problem.
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Thanks jza. My doctor has me taking over the counter laxatives for now, pretty regularly, and it least it provides some relief for a few hours of the day before the bloating builds up again.
MKW, my doctor and naturopath both suspect this has been an issue for me since my teens when I had an eating disorder – this likely started things off, slowed my motility and just flat out messed up my system. My symptoms however got out of control last year, and they think it is because I was taking morphine regularly and not eating much – my motlility did not recover from that (and at one point I didnt have a bm for two weeks and had to go to emergency – not a fun experience. Long story short they cleared me out with a bowel prep but I had just had rectal surgery for a pelvic floor injury and the pain of eliminating so much in such a short period of time was unimaginable. ..like incredibly painful. Those dang meds are a catch 22).
Could it be that the c diff itself was the cause? Just wiped out the good bacteria and allowed bad stuff to take hold and migrate? It seems as though it wouldnt be the case because c diff = diarrhea but I know many people have long term bowel issues following c diff (most often labelled ibs – but who knows whats what).
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Intestinal colic – symptoms, causes, signs and treatment of intestinal spasm in adults in “SM-Clinic”
This disease is treated by a Gastroenterologist
- About the disease
- Symptoms
- Causes
- Diagnostics
- Expert opinion
- Treatment
- Prophylaxis
- Rehabilitation
- Questions and answers
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About the disease
Intestinal colic is mainly associated with infants, in whom such spasms are a completely normal consequence of the immaturity of the gastrointestinal tract and the absence of the necessary enzymes for digesting food. With physiological growth, these symptoms disappear.
In adult men and women, intestinal colic is almost always one of the leading symptoms of the pathological process. In some cases, there is a reflex contraction of the muscles of the intestinal walls without functional disorders. This occurs in patients with congenital malformations of the gastrointestinal tract, in patients who have undergone surgical interventions on the digestive organs.
Intestinal colic is not an independent nosological unit (ie disease), there is no generally accepted classification.
Symptoms
The main symptom of intestinal colic is acute cramping pain in the central part of the abdomen. Some patients describe the sensation as twisting, throbbing spasms that take their breath away.
The rest of the clinical picture depends on the primary disease. Additional symptoms along with intestinal spasm can be:
- nausea, up to vomiting;
- flatulence;
- heartburn;
- heaviness in the abdomen;
- swelling;
- eructation of air or acidic stomach contents;
- girdle pains all over the abdomen;
- absence or marked loss of appetite;
- pain, discomfort in right side;
- hepatic colic;
- rumbling in the abdomen;
- diarrhea or constipation.
With liver damage, it is possible to stain the skin and sclera of the eyes in an icteric hue. With an intestinal infection, there is an increased body temperature, chills, and a general deterioration in well-being. Often, intestinal colic is accompanied by dizziness, headache, sharp and increasing weakness, excessive sweating.
Causes
Most often, intestinal colic occurs against the background of various acute and chronic diseases of the digestive tract, which include:
- gastritis;
- pancreatitis;
- gastric ulcer;
- diverticulitis;
- duodenitis;
- Crohn’s disease.
Other equally common causes of intestinal colic are:
- helminthiases;
- acute respiratory viral infections;
- viral and bacterial enteritis;
- appendicitis;
- hepatitis;
- transferred surgical interventions on the digestive tract;
- neoplasms in the digestive tract;
- acute food poisoning;
- intoxication of the body with heavy metals, harmful chemicals contained in fertilizers, household cleaners, etc. ;
- poisoning with natural and industrial poisons;
- overdose of drugs due to their incorrect or irrational use;
- injuries and chemical burns of the intestines;
- intestinal obstruction;
- ingestion of foreign objects in the digestive tract;
- drinking and smoking;
- violation of the diet.
In some people, intestinal spasm occurs as a response to too cold or too hot food entering the digestive tract. The cause can also be a hypertensive crisis, atherosclerosis, compression of the blood and lymphatic vessels by a tumor, a bezoar.
There is a relationship between spasms and the psycho-emotional state of a person: colic can occur in stressful situations, after strong negative experiences, against the background of excitement.
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Diagnosis
The algorithm for examining patients with intestinal colic involves:
- collection of anamnestic data;
- general physical examination;
- conducting instrumental studies and laboratory tests.
As part of the anamnesis, the doctor asks the patient about complaints and symptoms, previous or active diseases, determines the nature of the diet, evaluates the lifestyle. During a physical examination, the doctor evaluates the skin and mucous membranes of the oral cavity, performs thermometry, as well as palpation and percussion of the abdomen.
In the future, a complex of auxiliary examinations is prescribed, which, taking into account the indications, may include:
- general clinical blood and urine tests;
- fecal analysis;
- culture of urine;
- testing for helminthiases;
- biochemical blood test;
- radiography of the digestive system, including with contrast;
- CT or MRI;
- FGDS;
- bowel endoscopy.
In some cases, additional colonoscopy, barium enema and sigmoidoscopy are performed.
Expert opinion
Motility disorders can occur anywhere in the intestines, both in the small and large intestines. Pain, as a rule, occurs after eating or taking medications, against the background of physical activity, emotional experience. It is very important not to ignore such a symptom and immediately seek help from specialists. Constant intestinal colic significantly reduces the quality of life, negatively affects the nutrition and well-being of a person, and can lead to pathological weight loss. It is necessary to identify the cause of the spasm and eliminate the primary disease.
It is strictly not recommended to take any medications that affect intestinal motility on your own. Rash actions can lead to a sharp deterioration in the condition, instead of the expected benefit, cause additional harm. Only a full-time doctor can understand the causes of spasms in the intestines and choose a high-quality and safe treatment.
Butenko Elena Vladimirovna
Hepatologist, gastroenterologist, Ph.D.
Treatment
Therapy consists of symptomatic relief and elimination of the primary disease. As part of first aid for intestinal colic in adults, it is absolutely impossible:
- give painkillers, anti-inflammatory drugs;
- apply heating pads to the abdomen;
- apply warming ointments to the skin of the abdomen;
- give food and drink.
Such actions can blur the clinical picture of the disease, due to which acute surgical pathologies will not be detected in time (appendicitis, intestinal obstruction, etc.), which entails a real threat to the patient’s life.
In the treatment of diseases that cause intestinal colic, various medications, surgical techniques, physiotherapy procedures can be used. Medicines may include:
- laxatives;
- antispasmodics;
- antibiotics;
- anti-inflammatory and analgesics;
- diuretics;
- sedatives and sedatives;
- enterosorbents.
Of great importance is the correction of lifestyle and diet, the complete rejection of alcoholic beverages and smoking. It is desirable to reduce the impact of stress factors, avoiding conflicts, situations in which a person is very worried and worried.
Prophylaxis
There is no specific prophylaxis against intestinal spasms. It is recommended to control the existing chronic pathologies of the gastrointestinal tract, not to self-medicate with the use of potent drugs and folk methods, to lead a healthy lifestyle. In case of acute diseases of any nature, it is necessary to seek qualified medical help.
Rehabilitation
Forecasts and terms of recovery depend on the clinical picture of the primary disease, the severity of the patient’s condition, the frequency and duration of intestinal colic, the age of the patient and other indicators.
Strict adherence to diet and strict compliance with medical prescriptions are of paramount importance during rehabilitation. It is recommended to refuse such products as:
- fried meat;
- fatty fish and meat;
- marinades;
- preservation;
- hot spices;
- smoked products;
- unpasteurized dairy products;
- chocolate;
- flour confectionery;
- kvass;
- carbonated mineral water and soft drinks;
- cabbage;
- beans;
- mushrooms.
Questions and answers
To a general practitioner or gastroenterologist.
Safe if pain is associated with malnutrition or large meals. In other cases, such behavior is extremely negatively assessed by practitioners, since under the usual spasms in the intestines, acute surgical pathology or an extensive inflammatory process can be hidden. In such situations, heat will play the role of a catalyst and cause unpredictable consequences.
Undesirable, at least not without medical advice. The fact is that enzymatic preparations help to quickly cope with the digestion of food, but relax the work of the pancreas. There is a real risk that with the frequent and uncontrolled use of such drugs, the functions of the gland will simply turn off, and the patient will be forced to take enzymes constantly.
Clinical gastroenterology / Grigoriev P.A., Yakovenko A.V. – 2004.
Batyrkhanova G.G. Differential diagnosis and approaches to the treatment of abdominal pain syndrome (literature review) // Science and Health. – 2014. – No. 1.
V. T. Ivashkin, E.A. Poluektov. Functional disorders of the gastrointestinal tract. Moscow. MEDpress, 2013.
Ivashkin V.T., Poluektova E.A., Beniashvili A.G. Interaction of a gastroenterologist and a psychiatrist in the management of patients with a functional disorder of the gastrointestinal tract. Experience exchange. Russian Journal of Gastroenterology, Hepatology, Coloproctology 2011 No. 06.
Minushkin O.N., Elizavetina G.A. IBS: modern concepts, diagnosis, treatment approaches. St. Petersburg: Diagnosis and treatment of diseases of the digestive system from the standpoint of evidence-based medicine. – M: GMU UD of the President of the Russian Federation, – 2007.
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Ectopic pregnancy is one of the most dangerous pathological conditions in which the fetus develops outside the uterine cavity. The place of its implantation can be the fallopian (uterine) tubes, as well as other organs of the abdominal cavity and small pelvis.
Termination of an ectopic pregnancy is accompanied by intra-abdominal bleeding and severe complications requiring surgical intervention.
In the female body, normal gestation is possible only in the uterus, but in practice, the location of the embryo, in addition to the uterus, may vary.
There are several types of ectopic pregnancy: tubal, ovarian, abdominal, cervical and with a location in the rudimentary horn of the uterus.
The sites listed are unfavorable for gestation, so an ectopic pregnancy is terminated at 4 to 8 weeks to prevent serious complications.
Attached in an atypical place, the vessels of the fetal egg grow into the surrounding tissues. Other organs, besides the uterus, are not able to stretch and form blood vessels for the placenta. As a result, damage to surrounding tissues occurs, exfoliation of the fetal egg, as a result, severe bleeding occurs that threatens the life of the patient.
The appearance of a tubal form of pathology is associated with the presence of obstacles in the movement of a fertilized egg. If the fertilized egg does not reach the uterine cavity, then it is implanted in the fallopian tube. Ectopic fetal development occurs in about 2% of cases among all types of pregnancy, of which 98% fall on the tubal form. Fetal implantation in other parts of the uterus and appendages, as well as in the abdominal cavity, is much less common.
The release of a fertilized egg into the abdominal cavity with further implantation to the omentum, peritoneum or intestine leads to the development of abdominal pregnancy. One of the causes of this pathology may be in vitro fertilization.
In cervical pregnancy, the egg is implanted in the columnar epithelium of the cervical canal. As a result of deep penetration of the embryonic villi into the muscular layer of the cervix, the pregnancy ends in very heavy bleeding.
Causes of pathology
The development of pregnancy outside the uterine cavity occurs as a result of failures of natural processes that prevent the penetration of a fertilized egg into it. The most common causes of ectopic pregnancy include:
- previously transferred infectious lesions of the appendages caused by pathogenic microflora;
- the presence of adhesions in the fallopian tubes;
- defects in the structure of the genital organs;
- installed IUD in the uterus;
- infantilism;
- the presence of a tumor in the appendages or uterus;
- use of assisted reproduction methods;
- use of hormonal contraceptives;
- the presence of an inflammatory focus in the pelvic cavity;
- previously transferred surgical interventions on the appendages;
- stimulation of the ovulation process;
- history of abortions;
- endometriosis.
Features
It is not possible to determine the pathology at home. In this regard, timely registration can play a decisive role in the correct diagnosis.
At an early stage of development, an ectopic pregnancy has no distinguishing features. As a rule, it is characterized by:
- absence of menses;
- breast engorgement;
- manifestations or absence of toxicosis;
- positive pregnancy test, although in the presence of ectopic pathology it is not pronounced;
- painful sensations in the lower abdomen with irradiation to the rectum, as well as “spotting” discharge from the vagina.
Clinical manifestations of fetal development in the fallopian tube
An ectopic pregnancy can have a progressive form, in which case the growing fetal egg penetrates the muscular layer of the fallopian tube, leading to its gradual destruction. The patient has all the symptoms of pregnancy, but there are small bleeding from the genitals.
Also ectopic pregnancy can be terminated:
- as a tubal abortion. In this case, there is a partial or complete detachment of the membranes of the embryo from the wall of the tube and its entry into the abdominal cavity. Symptoms of manifestations depend on the severity of bleeding. Characterized by the presence of vaginal discharge in the form of blood clots. A pronounced soreness in the lower abdomen joins. Bimanual examination reveals an increase in the size of the uterus and appendages. Palpation of the posterior fornix of the vagina is very painful;
- is like a ruptured fallopian tube. May occur after the 6th week of pregnancy. This condition is life threatening due to internal bleeding. Patients complain of very severe pain in the lower abdomen on both sides. There is a protrusion of the posterior fornix of the vagina and a “floating” uterus during a bimanual examination.
How to detect an ectopic pregnancy
In the initial period, it is difficult to diagnose pathology. Symptoms indicate, as a rule, the presence of pregnancy, but there are no signs typical for the pathology.
Diagnosis is carried out by examining a woman in a gynecological chair, as well as using additional research methods:
- blood test for B-hCG, which in case of ectopic pregnancy shows a period less than it actually is;
- Ultrasound, which will give more complete information about the development of the fetal egg and its location.
Interrupted tubal pregnancy is accompanied by intra-abdominal bleeding. Typical symptoms of a pipe rupture will be:
- acute pain in the lower abdomen radiating to the anus, lumbar region, legs;
- secretion of blood from the genital tract;
- rapid, weak pulse;
- sudden drop in blood pressure;
- loss of consciousness.
Clinical manifestations of an interrupted tubal pregnancy should be differentiated from appendicitis and ovarian apoplexy. When the embryo is located in the cervical region, pregnancy should be distinguished from incomplete abortion and tumors.
An ectopic pregnancy can be confirmed or denied after ultrasound diagnostics and a blood test for B-hCG.
Treatment
Treatment of ectopic pregnancy is carried out only by surgery. All the efforts of doctors are aimed at maintaining the integrity and function of the fallopian tube, into which the implantation of the fetal egg has occurred. With timely detection of pathology and a small blood loss, a laparoscopic operation is performed.
When localizing the embryo in the tube, the following types of surgical intervention are used:
- tubotomy (removal of the gestational sac while preserving the tube). In the case of choosing this method, the possibility of recurrence of the pathology is taken into account;
- tubectomy (excision of the tube) – performed in the presence of severe damage.
The choice of methodology is influenced by the following factors:
- whether the woman plans to have a child in the future;
- repeated ectopic pregnancy will require removal of the tube;
- whether there is an adhesive process in the small pelvis;
- change in the structure of the wall of the fallopian tube.
If the blood loss is large, then in order to save a life during an ectopic pregnancy, it is necessary to perform an abdominal operation, in which the fetal egg and tube are removed. Plasma transfusion may be required to restore blood loss. It is important that the remaining second pipe fully retains its function.
How to deal with an ectopic pregnancy
To avoid serious complications that can occur during a pathological pregnancy, a timely visit to an obstetrician-gynecologist will help. Attempts to save the fetus can lead to sad consequences: as a result of a ruptured tube, blood flows into the abdominal cavity, which leads to fatal hemorrhagic shock.
When a patient is diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy, urgent hospitalization is required to terminate the pregnancy.
The author of the article:
Shklyar Aleksey Alekseevich
obstetrician-gynecologist, surgeon, candidate of medical sciences, head of the direction “Obstetrics and Gynecology”
work experience 11 years
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